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Posted: 9/23/2013 1:42 PM

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Love the heavy death abuse :) Many places look really creative. Can’t say anything about the optimization level, but it was certainly fun to watch, it’s a clear yes vote from me :)

Are you sure you've seen this? [1810] NES Battletoads & Double Dragon: The Ultimate Team "2 players" by feos in 17:41.14 As for this submission, it's unoptimized as hell, and also quite boring. If reading #3154: feos's NES Battletoads & Double Dragon: The Ultimate Team "2 Players" in 17:41.14 won't help, I can list some mistakes.

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Posted: 9/22/2013 6:18 AM

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I mean, memory corruption looks like a sane enough borderline to separate 2457M as "glitched" and 950M as "any%", with a room for improving each of them in their own branches.

boct1584 wrote:

Are we going to have two glitched runs? One for the wrong-warp and one for arbitrary code execution?

I don't think so.

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Posted: 9/21/2013 2:51 PM

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How about calling them just glitched and any% (which transcribes in having no branch)?

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Posted: 9/21/2013 2:33 PM

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Oh wow!

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Posted: 9/20/2013 2:08 PM

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Nach wrote:

feos wrote:
If we drop 10bit444 tag for these encodes, it will cause huge confusion between the old encodes without tags that were 8bit420 and the new ones.
But we should drop that tag, and replace it with something more fitting. Or drop the tag on this, and add a tag to the other. If both are appropriately labeled, no need for confusion.

Adding a tag to the other? You mean the encodes that already exist and are 420?

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Posted: 9/20/2013 1:47 PM
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If we drop 10bit444 tag for these encodes, it will cause huge confusion between the old encodes without tags that were 8bit420 and the new ones. And yes, since 512kb encode is officially provided for compatibility, it must do it to maximum, avoiding opus until it is supported freaking everywhere. The test video works with the linked K-Lite codecs.

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Posted: 9/19/2013 5:32 PM

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I guess now I see the borderline for a glitched branch. If it heavily corrupts memory and the result is heavily different from any%, it is glitched. Breaking something here and there may still be heavy glitch abuse, but remain gameplay-based and look like such. While heavy memory corruption usually results in soft-hacking the game to break gameplay flaw completely.

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Posted: 9/19/2013 4:25 PM

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This movie really got a chance for unobsoletion. Imagine it was submitted today. Will it present enough unique content to be published alongside with the current any% branch? What branch would it be itself? Post #355723

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Posted: 9/18/2013 7:45 PM

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Yeah, we would need to differentiate them by using some branches. Not just by tags.

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Posted: 9/18/2013 6:24 PM

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Sure, write all you wish so that no one then says "is that it, huh?"

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Posted: 9/18/2013 4:36 PM

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What about content overlap? Are those so different they need separate places in Moons? Prove they are.

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Posted: 9/18/2013 4:16 PM

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Okay, after a long conversation with adelikat, I was given approval to change some obsoletion chains if it will fit into the system of tiers. Now the question becomes not, whether a movie must be ubobsoleted, but rather, would it be accepted if it is submitted today? Explanation. To reduce the amount of arbitrary branches in the past, judges decided to obsolete runs by one another that were quite different. For example, SML2 any% was obsoleted by glitched. Now, if we imagine that the any% SML2 is submitted today, will it be rejected for suboptimality comparing to the current glitched? Because, when #4041: McBobX's Genesis Knuckles in Sonic the Hedgehog in 14:09.43 was submitted, it was rejected for not using the known tricks, which would lead to overall suboptimality. Similarly, if [450] SNES Chrono Trigger by hero of the day in 4:21:11.83 will be submitted today, I think it will be rejected for failing to be up-to-date with the current level of TASing. Another reason to reject a movie is if its content is already present on the site in a better way. So if [2400] NES Cross Fire "pacifist, no damage" by NhatNM in 05:56.36 will be submitted today, we will reject it for being too similar to [2409] NES Cross Fire by MESHUGGAH in 05:52.50 and being slower. The last reason is having unvaultable goal but failing to achieve Moons by being boring. Not sure if such movies were obsoleted in the past, since they were most likely rejected in the first place.

So if you really want some movie to be unobsoleted, let's examine if it is eligible for Moons as if it is submitted today, and if it is not sloppy (represents the current standards/face of the site).

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Posted: 9/17/2013 2:28 PM

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That would not matter. Would we just kill the publication if it is outdated? No. Glitched submission was grabbed as an excuse to kill it. Then this "precedent" was grabbed to kill greatly optimized runs for some new reasons. See how much good such cases bring?

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Posted: 9/17/2013 2:22 PM

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boct1584 wrote:

Odongdong wrote:
[450] SNES Chrono Trigger by hero of the day in 4:21:11.83 can be revived and put in "any%" category.
That run is extremely outdated. inichi did a testrun which beat that one by almost an hour.

It was never submitted. And as long as this exact branch is unobsoleted, we can't kill it with just anything related. Otherwise it will be like, obsolete Battletoads 1p Warpless + 2p Warpless + 1p Warped: by 2p Warpless. It is not right and serves no goal actually.

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Posted: 9/17/2013 2:14 PM

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Post #327944 On the matter: Moons allow us to publish runs that are considered GOOD by the audience and not care about the fact that it uses some strat that was also used in other branches. As long as the audience feels they are different enough, and good looking, they all need separate publications.

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Posted: 9/16/2013 7:54 PM

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Будет! http://tasvideos.org/TasingGuide.html

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Posted: 9/15/2013 11:54 AM

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http://tasvideos.org/GameResources/CommonTricks.html http://tasvideos.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13010

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Posted: 9/15/2013 11:49 AM

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Neat.

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Posted: 9/14/2013 12:36 PM

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Maybe.

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Posted: 9/14/2013 8:20 AM

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Well, it's all about wording now, so I did 2 more edits to be judged for clarity. If you are still not satisfied, reword it all you wish. My intent was to announce the hype, it was done. I'm not good at perfect wording.

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Posted: 9/14/2013 6:58 AM

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Tried to edit RAM watch.

System.NullReferenceException: Ссылка на объект не указывает на экземпляр объекта.
   в BizHawk.MultiClient.WatchEditor.RamWatchNewWatch_Load(Object sender, EventArgs e)
   в System.Windows.Forms.Form.OnLoad(EventArgs e)
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   в System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message& m)
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   в System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)

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Posted: 9/14/2013 5:40 AM

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Check it.

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Posted: 9/13/2013 8:46 PM

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If a game has some complex RNG (Konami games), comparing ram dumps won't do the trick. Basic game state might be the same, but some addresses (of different relevance) might change. But anyway, you can save a state and hash it, or a part of it (where ram is saved), and compare the whole state. And yes, there are lua hashing functions :)

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Posted: 9/13/2013 3:48 PM

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http://tasvideos.org/Adelikat/EmptyQueue.html

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Posted: 9/13/2013 2:37 PM

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Ilari wrote:

AndiHoffi wrote:
Is there a way to get a whole memory-dump in lua? I did not find anything like it in the doc. Without the memory-dump, I can stop the whole thing immediately, since there would be no way to detect equal states (that have been reached on two different ways).
Whole emulated system memory or whole host process memory? The first isn't the complete state (there are e.g. CPU registers), and the second contains all sorts of irrelevant stuff (that likely differs even if states are identical).

Wouldn't one only need critical addresses values?

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